KB grabs the mic backstage at SPHERE 2026 by Atmos for two conversations that couldn't look more different on the surface, but end up pointing at the same thing: where cyber threats really come from, and who's pushing back. First up, KB sits down with Lieutenant General Michelle McGuinness, Australia's National Cybersecurity Coordinator, and Steph Way, Director of the National Office of Cybersecurity. They get into what those 60 actions under Horizon 1 actually delivered, how limited use legislation is changing the way businesses talk to government after an incident, and why cyber resilience can't just sit with the technical few — it has to be something every Australian feels some ownership of. Then ...