In this episode of KB on the Go, recorded at Atmos SPHERE 2026, Karissa Breen brings together two conversations united by one uncomfortable truth: we have built fast, efficient, hyper connected societies, and quietly traded away our resilience.

First, Karissa sits down with Admiral Mike Rogers, Global Advisory Board member at CyberCX, and Alastair MacGibbon, Independent Adviser, to unpack what real national resilience looks like in 2026. They explore why cyber is no longer just about protecting data, but about availability and integrity, what happens when you can no longer trust the systems you depend on, and why it so often takes a crisis before meaningful change happens.

Then, Karissa is joined by Heather Osborne, Director of Global Events and Programming at NetDiligence, and Stefanie Luhrs, Partner, First Response at Atmos, to dig into what the 2026 cyber loss data is really telling us. The conversation covers the rising cost of business interruption, the long tail of human and reputational impact after a breach, the strain on B2B relationships, and the wave of regulatory activity expected in Australia over the next twelve months.

Two conversations, one shared message: we are optimised for cheapest and fastest, but not for when things break, and resilience is the conversation we keep putting off.